[BB]Raubvogel - what is it

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Sry for double -
I did some pvp just few minutes ago with Turmi ( ? i think ).
He said that sometimes he recorded fight sometimes not ( when he recorded he said that he had 30 fps - i don't know maybe he right ) and when he do not recorded he said that he has 180 fps.

At 30 fps - his moves was very smoothly, he was easy to hit, he doesn't have any jumps/lags etc.
'at 180fps' ( if i can believe him ) - his moves wasn't smoothly, he had jumps, he was very hard to hit, and he fast faster in turnings ( don't know why fps change fasts of turnings that much - i recorded many things in FL and i didn't saw very big change in turnings ).

But his aim-skill was on 30 fps/180 fps this same. Of course when he had faster turings we outturn me and i was more easy to hit but even at 180 fps when i stopped + strafes ( and he do it too ) he couldn't shot me down in a second/2 like on the movie. Remember also that i had break in playing and he did only 1 ramp on me ( i just lame after break Very Happy

) but i didn't die that fast like on the movies so :

In conclusion ( for admins ) - you should do something with that W7 lag. Maybe fps limiter to 160-170 i dont know we must test it. I know that people will start shout that they "sooo nooob at 160 fps give me 180 !!!!oneoneoneeleven" but it will be fairly to all players imo. Cuz W7 lag give advantage - we are laggy, we are very hard to hit - normal players without w7 lag dont have it.
W7 lag also can hide that cheats cuz when someone have that lag like we can see on the movie it's really hard to see that this is cheat or just big lag.

In conclusion ( topic ) - On this movies we can see very changable aimskill. Sometimes he could kill me at 1 turn 1 vs 1 just in a second sometimes no ( today he couldn't do it to - but he tried few times Very Happy

). I don't know how to assess this - In my opinion someone can have good aim, and someone can really ownage but no one can have almost 100% acc when our target move - this is just impossible and this must be analysed more.

About turns/thruster bursts etc - how i said it's hard to assess cuz W7 lag can hide this. For me in some situations that accelerate was just too big - The distance beetwen his ship before lag/jump and after it is just amazing - we ( or I -.- ) must analyse this more time.

All these situations are more complicated than all ( you + me ) think. And thats it's because W7 lag. Without it the analyse could be a lot easier.

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FPS limiting will be a feature of the upcoming 4.0 Modupdate - but i don't know for sure if it will fix all the issues with W7 lag

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Nice info.
Can you tell us to what fps game will be limited ( 160/150/140 ? )

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sometimes turns are not displayed immediately on your screen when your enemy is doing them.
Even NPCs do strange turns caused from lags.

Turmfalke is doing a turn, there is a bit of lag/loss, so you see him flying straight forward on your screen. Then the server gets the information with his new position, updates Turmis ship and the animation of his turn is missing on your screen.

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Yea but you are not 100% sure too - because of W7 lag/serverlag we can't say that was lag or hax but we can see position before 'lag' and after it + we can check in what time someone did this turn.

But nvm W7 lag could hide everything. Only what can we analyse is the distance between lag -
Second movie -
11:54-11:56 - look what distance he did ( normal speed for me ) in what time and then compare it with this situations :
~10:35
10:39-10:41
14:26-14:27

Now you know what i mean ?

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Its now since a long time ago that anyone posted something in this thread but i want say some things about what i have experienced.

I can mostly Agree with the Admindecision, because sometimes they turn bad or the moves a wrong at that time, sometimes you got the wrong movement at a situation.

Thats normal and how i see it many times in pvp on my own.

What i think is really suspect, is the level how BB grown better in pvp (especially at gunaim), still then when they didnt really active on the Server for days/weeks/months due to her normal frequenzy of Members on HHC. I can only explain this with that, that they are using a private Server to training pvp where are many good and different style players, maybe not only BB ones. The strange movements you see on them sometimes are by my opinion lagmovements maybe caused of high fps. But some are not really explainable and strange for me or others whome i talked about that.
But i will let that stay because you cant really tell or point a finger on it, because you cant know whats going on, on the other site of the Screen.

I fight them on many situations with different ships, amount of players involved, gun configurations and level of pvp skill and they are good Pilots indeed. So dont get me wrong !

The last fight i have was against two of them... It was even not possible to get a shield down because i was gunned that fast and with a aiming that i cant really explain but i will not say that this isnt possible on legal way.
I think by the way it was the same Raubvogels just with other signs on the last letter/s.

I used sometimes not to move naturally and fly Randomly in that fight (because i worked that style out by myself in pvp fights) and they still hit me really good.

So now i saw a other Video from a player on HHC who is using a Aimcross who change his Colour from blue to white when you are (so it looks to me) nearly or on the right Spot to hit.
Someone told me, that BB use that same Tool too ingame who will change the Colours of the Cross.

I didnt know what kind of Tools allowed on the server and what is legal or not with changeing crosscolours because i didnt care about really because iam not using such things for myself.
When they are (BB) using this Tools as i heared, like this other guy, than i can explain that gunaim easy, but then it has a littlebit lesser to do with real gunaimskill than more with advantage of the cross to the normal (Vanilla) one what give you the chance for better aiming on your target.

Maybe it also tell you if iam right, when your best chance is to hit.
There are besides some things who will interrupt a perfect hit like the Latency or hitbox limits on different ships by the game.

So what i finally want to say is, that it can be possible someone may sometimes is not really legal on what he's doing, but it can also be possible that they are as good due training and wisdom by playing this game a long time.

Greetings

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Nah, old topic. I already know (almost) everything.
But it doesn't matter, game already died so whatever...
They only had good fun with playing, and cheating us.

It's not about Colour of Cross... Come on, they laugh so hard with it...
FPS change - I found some tool - after some fps engine changing I had same turnrates like them, same aim, same fast killing etc. When I tested it with my friend, he told me that my ship react exactly like BB ships - and i saw vidoes which my friend recorded when we fighting - I had this same jumps, like on my videos about BB here, same incredible fast turnrate, and godlike aim.
The best is that I gave that tool to admins some months ago ... And this tool is still working (i didn't get any answer to my topic about that also. But nvm - this game DIED and noone care).
So, go hunting nomads or change the game

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well amg
A while has passed since i was playin pvp on the Server last time
but all of my enemys couldnt beat me in a 1v1
intresting Point my skill Level couldnt touch by those guys
for me they just good but not professional players as Viper it was
anyway i dont care about this cheat stuff
i was and i am about it

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\^AMG^/ hat folgendes geschrieben:

Nah, old topic. I already know (almost) everything.
But it doesn't matter, game already died so whatever...
They only had good fun with playing, and cheating us.

It's not about Colour of Cross... Come on, they laugh so hard with it...
FPS change - I found some tool - after some fps engine changing I had same turnrates like them, same aim, same fast killing etc. When I tested it with my friend, he told me that my ship react exactly like BB ships - and i saw vidoes which my friend recorded when we fighting - I had this same jumps, like on my videos about BB here, same incredible fast turnrate, and godlike aim.
The best is that I gave that tool to admins some months ago ... And this tool is still working (i didn't get any answer to my topic about that also. But nvm - this game DIED and noone care).
So, go hunting nomads or change the game

Its always fun to read the bullshit youre typing, i´d love to see your face while your standing next to me watching the fight on my screen without any changes in the game and still be like 'the heck, how is he doing that'.

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[BB]-Turmfalke hat folgendes geschrieben:

\^AMG^/ hat folgendes geschrieben:

Nah, old topic. I already know (almost) everything.
But it doesn't matter, game already died so whatever...
They only had good fun with playing, and cheating us.

It's not about Colour of Cross... Come on, they laugh so hard with it...
FPS change - I found some tool - after some fps engine changing I had same turnrates like them, same aim, same fast killing etc. When I tested it with my friend, he told me that my ship react exactly like BB ships - and i saw vidoes which my friend recorded when we fighting - I had this same jumps, like on my videos about BB here, same incredible fast turnrate, and godlike aim.
The best is that I gave that tool to admins some months ago ... And this tool is still working (i didn't get any answer to my topic about that also. But nvm - this game DIED and noone care).
So, go hunting nomads or change the game

Its always fun to read the bullshit youre typing, i´d love to see your face while your standing next to me watching the fight on my screen without any changes in the game and still be like 'the heck, how is he doing that'.

And I´d love to see your face in DM, shooting torps in ass that not miss! Dare?

Titel: Verfasst am: 27.11.13 12:55

cvekiboy hat folgendes geschrieben:

[BB]-Turmfalke hat folgendes geschrieben:

\^AMG^/ hat folgendes geschrieben:

Nah, old topic. I already know (almost) everything.
But it doesn't matter, game already died so whatever...
They only had good fun with playing, and cheating us.

It's not about Colour of Cross... Come on, they laugh so hard with it...
FPS change - I found some tool - after some fps engine changing I had same turnrates like them, same aim, same fast killing etc. When I tested it with my friend, he told me that my ship react exactly like BB ships - and i saw vidoes which my friend recorded when we fighting - I had this same jumps, like on my videos about BB here, same incredible fast turnrate, and godlike aim.
The best is that I gave that tool to admins some months ago ... And this tool is still working (i didn't get any answer to my topic about that also. But nvm - this game DIED and noone care).
So, go hunting nomads or change the game

Its always fun to read the bullshit youre typing, i´d love to see your face while your standing next to me watching the fight on my screen without any changes in the game and still be like 'the heck, how is he doing that'.

And I´d love to see your face in DM, shooting torps in ass that not miss! Dare?

Seriously, what the hell.

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besser alles löschen was ich hier schreibe.

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Zitat:

And I´d love to see your face in DM, shooting torps in ass that not miss! Dare?

Calm Down

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Dieser Moment, wenn man seine alten Posts durchliest und feststellt, dass man früher kein English konnte.

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m3tall hat folgendes geschrieben:

Zitat:

And I´d love to see your face in DM, shooting torps in ass that not miss! Dare?

Calm Down

cveki didnt ment anything bad, but his english is bad xD. He just proposed to Turmi, to visit Draconus Majorum server and to they have pvp there.
Nothing bad i guess

Titel: Verfasst am: 27.11.13 18:53

What would it change?

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[BB]-Turmfalke hat folgendes geschrieben:

What would it change?

If u asked me - dunno , I just explain what he wanted to say in his post.
But coz DM is limited on 60fps for all players, im sure that is the reason why he call u there on pvp (... theres no other reason if u ask me).

Cheers.