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Beitrag Titel: Thanks a lot
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Everyone thanks a lot for BB/STE etc for outnumbering ! Thanks a lot for them for kill this game. Thanks a lot for admins for nothing doing with that...
Yea maybe someone say I cry... I'm just pissed of. Even if is in mass-pvp 1 vs 3/4 or 2 vs 5 and there is almost full balanced -> nooo they need more ! And if they start losing ( they almost always start losing or just had little less advantage ) they must **** that balance and pretty nice pvp... Yea 1 vs 4 is too hard :/ We need to 6/7/8/9/10 vs 1 ! ...
I have that all in my ass. That behavior killed this pretty nice game and admins even don't shake one's finger. I'm full convinced that they can do something with that ( add some kind of rules etc etc is it too hard ? ).
We will se who will play in this after some months. Maybe then, you will saw that you destroyed and killed Freelancer.
I won't replay in this topic so don't wait for it.I wish you good, long, very interesting and full of twists and turns fights with yourself.
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Hey AMG

Earlier I was ganked 8-3 by the same clan (and friends) who own the base you were defending

HC gotta love it Razz

Oh btw it was 5 cruisers and 3 fighters vs AMG, those cruisers can be a bitch when they out turn you

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Zitat:
it was 5 cruisers and 3 fighters vs AMG

Liar. Btw there was good fight until you and one of BB didnt come.
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Earlier

When ? 3/4 years ago ? When on server at the weekends were 100+ players ?

I said I won't replay but I have something to add that I forgot write.
I think there is a solution for this problem - add a rule or something like that. For example, in mass-fight max different from number players vs players -
1 vs 3
2 vs 5
3 vs 6
4 vs 7
5 vs 8
and then players from one side can't be more 1.5x than players from another side so
6 vs 9
7 vs 10-11
8 vs 12
And if is it 1 vs 3 and if that 1 ppl start attack someone another - that another player can join fight.
Or something like that Razz
It will be more fun and balance in game.
I think this is fair - and we should start a debate about this ( I understand that maybe you have another, better solution ). I think some players can back ( almost all my friends who played freelancer dont want back because of outnumbering. If i want invite them to Freelancer they always say ( nooo i dont wanna fight 3/4 vs 12... ).

@Down
Read what i wrote -
I said I won't replay but I have something to add that I forgot write.
When there was a lot ppl on server there was another 'world'. You always could call backup because of a lot players. Now for example me can't do that ( sometimes another ppl of smurfs relog to help but there is 1/2 players ? They didnt help vs 8... )

Now I will replay only about changes on server ( and now I REALLY wont replay about sh*t ). Maybe there is a small chance to save that game.


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Beitrag Titel: Re: Thanks a lot
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\^AMG^/ hat folgendes geschrieben:
I won't replay in this topic so don't wait for it


Nice principles there, mate. Oh, by the way: a 317th Ganking Squad member crying about fighting outnumbered ... no more comment needed.
Have a nice time without Freelancer. Wink

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Em AMG

No Lies just Facts, all info here if u want to check http://www.freelancerserver.de/v2/flstat.php?show=pvplist

And by earlier i meant 8 hours ago

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Beitrag Titel: Re: Thanks a lot
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\^AMG^/ hat folgendes geschrieben:
...
I won't replay in this topic so don't wait for it.I wish you good, long, very interesting and full of twists and turns fights with yourself.
Cya.


bla bla bla...

PG rated, Freelancer is not a milky-silky stuff.

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Yea yesterday i was a little too nervous, sorry.
Now really. We should talk about this. Ganking is not nice. Everyone dont like it, so changes in rules or something like that will be good for all Razz We just need to find optimal solution for all. I think that with this some players can back and old-great-battles like from old times too.
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The freelancer community has become really small
and most players who are still active are terrorists or pirates nowadays.
There wont be battles like back in the old days.
There's no sense in changing rules to prevent ganking,
the pirates would get even more bored because there are not enough antis to fight
and they might stop playing aswell.
The only chance to have "fairer" fights is to recruit and train more antis or reactivate old players, eg crashbx.

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Ganking is blahblahblah.

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@Killerbee
I think, for example 1 vs 3 is gank too, so pirates can do it but they can't do it on big scale - gank exist so pirates are happy, gank is little more balanced - defenders are more happy.
I think that didnt do big difference for pirates in ganking. They always can have advantage in numbers of players so your argument is no sense.

Old players who can start recruit and train more antis won't back if they will be ganked day by day - it's just too unfair and this really pissing of and the game starts be boring. When there is a better balance and 2 sides have a chance for win, then everybody are excited ( less or more, depends on the concrete player ) and, because of that, everybody are interested in how that fight will end. Better balance = longer and more excited fights. Second problem is that HC have almost no new players ( and if someone new will come he usually go for BB/STE alliance [ And i'm not surprised about this ] ), so we should find something how encourage the old players to back to the game.

most players who are still active are terrorists or pirates nowadays.
Everybody know that RPG in HC is generally only for fun. A lot police/navy clans had alliance with pirate clans and vice versa. There were although a exceptions but i think no one take notice about that - everyone just shooting to enemy - No matter that this clan is pirate or not. The problem is that only few clans are active - why ? Because of that outnumbering. I understand that you were ganked ago too but do you like it ? I think no, so change in this will be good for all.

Btw, killerbee if you have better solution for this problem say it. Even big idiot can criticize but find a good solution for problem isn't easy so find better. Do nothing isn't good solution i think.
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RPG has never really existed on HC, why try to introduce it now?

In the past we had OIA/uSF/Orden/OEG/FT-I/T~P as an alliance and other clans like STE WOLFS and TCE has a sort of understanding

Its no different now BB/STE/FTI alliance has sort of understanding with NXS, we still at war but when fighting RYO/USAF and T~P smurf brigade we dont kill each other

Its politics not RP

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Thats what i say - there wasnt RPG on HC and it won't create.
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+1

But RPG is not main meaning of this topic so please discuss about ganking.
Tedi what are you think about this ?
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blah blah blah

Everyone talks the same shit.

\^AMG^/ hat folgendes geschrieben:
And if they start losing ( they almost always start losing or just had little less advantage ) they must **** that balance and pretty nice pvp... Yea 1 vs 4 is too hard :/ We need to 6/7/8/9/10 vs 1 ! ...


Yea if we start loosing we will always try to stay fighting 'till our mates arrive. So dont cry about any kind of "ganking". Everyone will be ganked and it doesen't matter if he/she plays pirate or anti pirate. Surprised
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Ganking always was and always will be part of this pvp-based game/server. I remember getting ganked from my first days in FL on DFLS, then I joined HC and also got ganked. Back then mostly by antis - until today.
Ganking and getting ganked. That's the way this server runs. If you do not want to take part in this just go trading or go offline when you got enough.

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I dont think you can do anything about Ganking like Rhino says FL and Ganking have been around since beginning, if you put rules in place it gets boring

Sonic is also right, yesterday we were 3v10 (I undercounted earlier) but outcome was predictable, a few of our mates come and the balance quickly changes as the same people as always leave and soon it was 7v2 and game over, some people have no staying power in these situations it becomes easy to single them out

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[BB]-SonicEagle hat folgendes geschrieben:
Everyone will be ganked and it doesen't matter if he/she plays pirate or anti pirate. Surprised


Nope everytime I get ganked I usually fight, be quiet and wait for someone to help me.
But if there's only a little chance that I kick those Gankers asses with someone on my side they leave.

I normaly stay calm in those situations but it really sucks when u get ganked for half an hour, someone arrives and you are able to turn the tide. But then those lamers leave.
Sometimes I meet some of them alone, but when you start to attack them suddenly you are in a 3 vs 1 fight...

The problem is that about 80% of the players are not able to take a beat.

Ouhh shit my holy stats are going to be destroyed -.-

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Oh by the way: right now you gank us. Just for your information. Wink

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I think that trouble a lot of players who can't fight vs strong old pirates-fighters, is low support of friends.

If i see that my friend fight 1vs1 i always ask him "who is your opponent: friend or enemy ?" and "Do u need help?" , "That's pvp?" and something else...
If i see that my friend or ally fight vs 3 and more enemys i always, repeat always, come for help without all questions, just come for help because i understand that fight vs 3 or more is no so good.

So what about your friends, AMG? Might u must talk about support in fights with your allies? Might be problem in U? Just think about that!
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AMG I feel with you. That's one of the reasons why I'm very inactive since weeks on HHC.

Stone hat folgendes geschrieben:
The problem is that about 80% of the players are not able to take a beat.

Ouhh shit my holy stats are going to be destroyed -.-


Exclamation That's the problem.
I'm going to explain what I'm talking about:
Thesedays you get ganked by 4+ people who are increasing their normal lag with using ships, were they can lag better and over and above spam around with missiles.
There are other people, who are using eagle and torpedo normally and switching to bd or eagle+cannonball when they're ganking, though...
...because they can't accept, that they goddamn suck without doing so.
There are other people, who are ganking hard and are glad about every rampage, they get in a 100000 vs 3. That's rly pro, no joke.
There are other people, who NEVER fight 1v1 and just join, if their party is gangbanging.
There are other people, who know that they have win7-lag with 180 fps and don't change down their fps.

It wouldn't be that awkward, if I don't got the feeling, that I speak about 80-90% of the active people ig, I meet since months.
This is not amusing, this is not real pvp and you aren't pro. It's about "How to show you, that I'm the better ganker than you".

But trust me, AMG, they won't change their behaviour, bcoz they feel in right. ->> "The antis/pirates begun! We were innocent nice guys!"
So, you would go well with playing another game, I'm sure, it'll be more fun than rageing about _this shit_ .

Last but not least: Don't follow their suit. Show them, that you are better and more honorable then them.

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But trust me, AMG, they won't change their behaviour, bcoz they feel in right. ->> "The antis/pirates begun! We were innocent nice guys!"
I know that - I just try to tell them that they will be alone on the server if they won't change their behaviour.
About ganking. For example today - I had 1 vs 1 with STE Skillless and then one of BB ( i dont remember if that was Rhino or one of FT-i ) start attack me too. I was 1 vs 3 but I still fight. Then one guy helped me - was 2 vs 3, a lot better and fights was a little more balanced but still we lose ( but fight was a lot interesting then ).
After that i really dont remember but i know that someone join them and again I was outnumbered. Then that guy who help me go off ( and one of 3MAJ who joined for some minutes too ). Again alone.
Then logged on one of The Pirates. And after some minutes second T~P, Destiny and I think 1 Freelancer/smurf help us. We still was outnumbered but fight was really balanced. Some of BB had ramps and I got one, one of The Pirates get one ramp too ( few have one of freelancer who helped BB cuz no one target him first ).
And say Rhino... Is this fight wasn't more interesting and exited when T~P join ? I know and you know that, it was.
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Hi Asuka.

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\^AMG^/ hat folgendes geschrieben:
For example today - I had 1 vs 1 with STE Skillless and then one of BB ( i dont remember if that was Rhino or one of FT-i ) start attack me too. I was 1 vs 3 but I still fight. Then one guy helped me - was 2 vs 3, a lot better and fights was a little more balanced but still we lose ( but fight was a lot interesting then ).


Oh well, get the facts straight. Skillless and you were fighting, two other guys stood there in that group when I joined the server. After a while of 1on1 one of the other guys left, an USAF came online and both, F-Ti and me, began to shoot because you /vote lag'd Skillless. From that point on we just fought, no matter how many you were (there was a point where you had been alone and the F-Ti left). And in matter of fact: you are jumping and lagging like hell.
When the TP's joined the fight you were outnumbering us and we still managed to bash you without crying of getting outnumbered or ganked. We just fought instead of running to the forums to cry about how evil and mean other players are for ganking us in lag-seths or else. That's the spirit, not that whiny behaviour. Accept to get ganked and expect that you will be able to gank back in a different situation. That's it. No changes needed. No tears needed.

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Robokiller92 hat folgendes geschrieben:
Hi Asuka.

Hi Robo.
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Matsuei hat folgendes geschrieben:
Edit: Oops, wrong account.

Got it? Haters gonna hate, doesn't matter if it's ridiculous or not, well, no problem. Cool

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Asu your not supposed to be playing here at all, werent u banned for cheating?

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