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Beitrag Titel: How are your countries reacting to Japan desaster?
Verfasst am: 15.03.11 11:12
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Our country (ger) is permanently discussing and reporting about the events.

BUT our media is at the moment totaly concerned and concentrated on national consequences. I miss reports about other reactions from other countries.

Therefore i want to use this thread for some international impressions on the events.

Where else would it possible to get so different nations together with people that you know (a little).

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Verfasst am: 15.03.11 11:45
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Well, Russia looks like it feels sorry for Japan disaster. Officially President sent notes to Japan about we ready to support them.
But i dont really care about official. Me and my friends really worry about ppl in japan. You know, even japanise company stopped to providing game servers cos of disaster - thats how bad is over there.
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Verfasst am: 15.03.11 12:25
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Russia not just "ready" to support, in Japan already are working 75 Russian specialists- rescuers. The overall grouping of russian rescue forces in Japan will be about 180 people.
And of course, oue people are afraid to suffer from radiation and tsunami also- our east areas are boarding with Japan...
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Verfasst am: 15.03.11 13:02
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Yeah, what the **** is wrong with Germany and the world. Japan is destroyed and a bigger disaster than the Tsunami is ahead, and all what nations can do is have a intern political discussion about their own reactors. They don't care about Japan, they think, what if we get a earthquake, or a Tsunami, how will the reactors react. Knowing there will not be a earthquake or a Tsunami (Germany), still, they spend time on that topic instead of the discussion on how to help to build op Japan. One death is one too much, always keep that in mind!

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Verfasst am: 15.03.11 13:34
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In France, they try to not discuss much about our reactors, because France is the first European country reguarding to number of reactors. Sarkozy just said that our reactor are the safest we can have...officially ..so there isn't so much discussions in media about intern politic, it's more about what's going on, and what will be in japan.

Btw, about Russia , do u think that conflict between Russia and japan about kuril archipel had influence? They both claim this territory, since many years. Russia sold liquified gaz to japan in order to help japan with energy, maybe kuril was in the discussion.
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Verfasst am: 15.03.11 13:48
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Can't tell anything about tv-news as I am not watching tv at all.
RIAN says that Russia sent a team of nuclear scientists to help dealing with the plant. Not a bad thing as our specialists have a sadly big exp dealing with nuclear problems.

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Verfasst am: 15.03.11 13:49
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message from Austria: people here are grateful that Austria does not use nuclear power plants (of course we get cheap electricity from France...)

in general Austrians worries concerning the fate of Japan and Japanaese people and are hoping for a happy end

as I am working in the Eastern European headquarter of a Japanese company many top management people are from Japan - they are concerned but extremly quiet and showing no sign for deep worries

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Verfasst am: 15.03.11 13:51
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(i'm from germany)

It would be nice, if you tell in your post from which country you are.. So that we could put it in context and if you talking about your own country or if you are telling about your impression of foreign countries.

@Chrono: Germany was also helping as much as Japan wanted the help.

After a press conference of the german goverment France is kind of sweating because the drastic course of german politics wasnt expected and they thought that they had a ally for nuclear power in germany.

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Verfasst am: 15.03.11 14:03
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Abc, Gudrun, Flex/F7 - Russia
BurstMox - France
Chrono - Netherlands
Banjo - Austria

Either, as experienced HC-Player you are, should know that or being able to guess that from the context (like in BurstMox's case). Razz

btw: I'm from Germany. Mr. Green

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Verfasst am: 15.03.11 14:08
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Germany's paranoia about nuclear energy was very strong even before this. After this incident it will be tripled for sure.

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Verfasst am: 15.03.11 14:36
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@Rhino: I know. But other than yourself i'm not only thinking about myself Razz

@Flex: The paranoia about it was in a part of political fractions.. But our goverment approved nuclear power. They even tried.. or did extend the expected useful life of your power plants. Even if they very old and had some accidents over and over again.

2011 is "Super Wahljahr" .. big election year in germany. So this topic will be a central point in future poltical germany.

Also im kind of a little disgusted by our opposition. They only mention the suffering of Japan in a halfsentence before they continue to "flame" about their political topics and try to flame goverment. I dont know what they are thinking.. ok. "Atomkraft, nein danke" (nuclear power, no thanks!) is a big thing in germany which i generally also support.. but i would be ashamed of myself to talk about that while others are suffering so badly.

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Verfasst am: 15.03.11 14:36
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(UK)

United Kingdom has sent 200 specialist search and rescue people along with sniffer dogs

We have been discussing expanding our nuclear power factories, but maybe it will be harder for those to be built now

In hindsight it does seem a little crazy for Japan to build nuclear power stations on the pacific coast of a country that gets hit often by both earth quakes and tsunamis

Anyway the loss of life is going to be huge, which is very sad

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Verfasst am: 15.03.11 14:43
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Germany's paranoia about nuclear energy was very strong even before this. After this incident it will be tripled for sure.


Well Flex, being paranoid is one thing but to face the consequences is another one. I was always a supporter of nuclear energy, because i tought the risk we were taking was minimal and only statistically relevant.

Tschernobyl was one thing... a nuclear power plant that was build without much worries about safety and consequences

Fukushima is another case, Japan is (was) one of the worlds biggest economies and due to a natural disaster the very unlikely worst case happend.

At least we seem to recognize the responsibility for our country and Europe...
The worst case seems to happen on the far side of the world, but we should learn and stop being stupid and arrogant about our own nuclear depots and power plants

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Verfasst am: 15.03.11 14:58
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If Germany would allow that new and completely modern nuclear power plants may be built to exchange the old ones, there would be a lower risk of such a catastrophe which happens right now in Japan (caused by a natural catastrophe). And in addition to this in Germany is neither a high risk of a great earthquake nor of tsunamis, only "normal" floodings (Rhine, Elbe, Danube, ...).
Many Germans are annoyed by castor transports and nuclear waste - that is the only real critics. The other arguments are "there possibly could happen anything" and "we do not want a second Chernobyl" even if there's not a concrete, real danger. It's all about panic here.
Our "great" environment-protecting political party Bündnis '90 Die Grünen (Greens) endowed, when they were part of the government, new coal power plants. Are they serious?
And also on of the leading Greens-Politicians, Jürgen Trittin, declared years ago that there never (never!) should be any Greens-member protesting against castor transports. Last year the same guy appeared on such a demonstration. That's what I call faithful to principles.

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Verfasst am: 15.03.11 15:00
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I am not saying that its a bad thing to be aware of nuclear energy. But powerplants now are actually ~very~ safe, thanks to excessive safe measures that make it literally impossible for situation to turn bad. One of OEG's is working at a powerplant, so I know about these things first-hand. Unless a very strong natural disaster occurs, these things are very, very safe.

Building them in zones with earthquake and tsunami possibility, on the other hand, is not very smart. I understand that Japan had no other way to get the amount of electricity they need, but still. No matter how sturdy and earthquake-proof building is built, there can always be a stronger push, and it can turn into disaster.

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Verfasst am: 15.03.11 15:13
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Zitat:
In hindsight it does seem a little crazy for Japan to build nuclear power stations on the pacific coast of a country that gets hit often by both earth quakes and tsunamis


Nuclear plants have to be near water, for the cooling system, especialy in emergency situation. You heard, japan ingeniers decided to cool reactors with water (even if salted water is not great, still better than nothing). So, that's why plants are next to the sea, or rivers/lakes.
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Verfasst am: 15.03.11 15:21
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Well flex but in first place you say they are safe and in second place you say it is impossible to make them save. Only one small problem can cause a chain of problems witch can lead into situations like they have in Japan or had in Chernobyl or in other accidents in past (BTW last 3 accidents where in Japan, including the new one). Money makes the world go around - so those Plants are also linked to this rule and are only there to make profit, not to get clean energy ^^

But ye it is impossible to make em safe. So best solution is to search for another energy source or try to improve existing alternatives. Worldwide only 30% of energy usage is Atomic-Energy so why don't shut them down and stop to rip of lands with Uranium-Mines and their People and stop producing millions of tons of radiating and toxic waste. We even don't know to store the nuclear waste secured - and we have to because it will radiate for millions of fucking years.

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Verfasst am: 15.03.11 15:27
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That something is safe doesn't mean, that there will happen something bad/dangerous.
Travelling in cars, buses, trains and planes is also called "safe". But nevertheless there are many accidents.

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International reactions:

http://europe.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2011-03/11/content_12160152.htm

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U.N. SECRETARY-GENERAL BAN KI-MOON

"The world is shocked and saddened by the images coming out of Japan this morning ... We will do anything and everything we can at this very difficult time."

The United Nations said 30 international search and rescue teams were on alert to go to Japan to provide assistance.

U.S. PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA

"The United States stands ready to help the Japanese people in this time of great trial ... The friendship and alliance between our two nations is unshakeable, and only strengthens our resolve to stand with the people of Japan as they overcome this tragedy."

The U.S. Defense Department was preparing American forces in the Pacific to provide relief.

RUSSIAN PRESIDENT DMITRY MEDVEDEV

"Russia is ready to offer Japan all possible aid to cope with the aftermath of this tragedy."

BRITISH PRIME MINISTER DAVID CAMERON

"We've had a terrible reminder of the destructive power of nature, and everyone should be thinking of that country and their people, and I've asked immediately that our government should look at what we can do to help."

British Foreign Minister William Hague said British rapid deployment teams were ready to travel immediately to the areas of most need.

FRENCH PRESIDENT NICOLAS SARKOZY issued a statement expressing sorrow.

"France stands ready to respond to any requests from Japan for help in the face of this tragedy," he said.

EUROPEAN COMMISSION PRESIDENT MANUEL BARROSO AND EUROPEAN COUNCIL PRESIDENT HERMAN VAN ROMPUY:

"We are deeply concerned at the news of the devastating earthquake which has struck Japan, causing a number of fatalities and serious material damage.

"The European Union expresses its solidarity and condolences to the people and government of Japan, and to the families of the victims at this difficult time.

"We stand ready to assist in any way we can in case of need."

SOUTH KOREA said it had 40 emergency rescue workers on standby to fly to Japan, pending clearance.

CHINESE PREMIER WEN JIABAO said Beijing was ready to provide Japan with any assistance it required.

THAILAND offered $165,000 in aid and said it would consider giving more when the extent of the damage was known. (Compiled by Kevin Liffey, London World Desk

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I`ve never seen destructions like in Japan..and I realy feel sorry about Japan.Latvia is so small сountry, but i hope it will help.
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Seems like situation with that powerplant is really out of control now.

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Verfasst am: 15.03.11 21:30
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F7 hat folgendes geschrieben:
Germany's paranoia about nuclear energy was very strong even before this. After this incident it will be tripled for sure.

Hm, it´s not that germans are paranoid about nuclear energy. It´s more the care about "what to do with the nuclear waste"!
There is no place wourldwide to keep this safe for about 500.000 years. And in this very short period of time, humanity using nuclear power for civillian and military purpose, there is a lot of this rubbish lost in a irresponsible way.
I like to remember how russia maintain with there old nuclear submarines. They are doped down at Barents Sea, Murmansk. Or in germany we have 3 - 4 places were this stuff is burried in barrells. And we know allredy that some of these barrells are leck. Groundwater is contaminated. There is allmost no way to get these barralls back to seal them.

It´s like Cro-Magnon people would have played with nuclear power. We would not know where we should not dig. There is no way to save these archive for future generations. In half a million years this trash is still dangous.

Beside my proper commiseration for the people in Japan right now, this catastrophe only shows the current danger not the future manace.

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Banjo hat folgendes geschrieben:
message from Austria: people here are grateful that Austria does not use nuclear power plants (of course we get cheap electricity from France...)

in general Austrians worries concerning the fate of Japan and Japanaese people and are hoping for a happy end

as I am working in the Eastern European headquarter of a Japanese company many top management people are from Japan - they are concerned but extremly quiet and showing no sign for deep worries


(Slovakia)

That's true, Austrians are strongly against nuclear energy and yet Slovaks have 2 nuclear power stations not far from Austrian borders, I remember the huge discussions and hostile atmosphere between Austria and Slovakia when these two plants have been built.Not to mention that the reactor model is the very same as the one in Chernobyl.

With regards to Japan crisis. I agree with Tedi, how can one country build a nuclear power station on such a geographical location?? Somehow they miscalculated the probability of losses caused by nuclear meltdown due to loss of cooling capacity and this is the result.

My country is small cca 5 mio population, we have sent 30 member rescue squad with dogs + some material for evacuees, cover sheets, clean clothing etc.

A sad day in Japan history indeed, prayers to all who lost their homes and loved ones.

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our country is doing nothing like always . Our country cant even do for its own good .. so **** it

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Also im kind of a little disgusted by our opposition. They only mention the suffering of Japan in a halfsentence before they continue to "flame" about their political topics and try to flame goverment.


i totally agree with you Sokar. i even got the feeling, that they were waiting for such a theme like this just to attack the gouvernment...
oh and: Jürgen Trittin also was throwing stones on policemans by demonstrations...

in my oppinion it would be more helpfull in germany to stop burning als this carbon, because that effects the nature permanently.
of course the case in Japan showed everyone, that no nuclear power station is 100% save, but if the german gouvernment wouldnt be so dull, they even could have built an area for the radioactive trash instead of searchig for it somewhere in lacking saltshafts. Rolling Eyes
the main problem is, that the regenerative energy sources arent fully developt at the moment and in fact we need energy from somewhere.

but back to Japan:
the german embassy already moved from Tokyo to Osaka because of this emergency.
futhermore many german workers, who e.g. are employed by japanese concerns, are comming back
and german companys are sending their worker back to home.

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