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Beitrag Titel: Seth
Verfasst am: 24.12.09 13:23
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You could remove the strafebug from seth or what is it because it bad all the ship


and could remove missiles and wasp to see how the best players go to noob players
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just loled
you forgot that noobtorp also has to be removed than ^^ ah and tizonas as well and engine-kill and ah eagle too ... lets remove Freelancer!!!111oneeleven

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Everybody should fly a starflier.
That's the real skill people

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GreenLynX hat folgendes geschrieben:
Everybody should fly a starflier.
That's the real skill people


I tried , it can't hold enough ammo -_- Or I just fail with javelins xD
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but remove the seth strafe bug or what is that!!
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Valy hat folgendes geschrieben:
but remove the seth strafe bug or what is that!!

it is not a "bug". it was included by the admins

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The Thruster-Drain was modded in because the Seth had little weight (100) and was obyiously not modded carefully, which led to lag. I think its a pity that such a great ship was made some kind of useless. There are other possibilitys (like increasing weight) to avoid lag better than REMOVING strafe. Maybe the Seth should be modded completely new, but many people do not want a ship competing with Eagle, especially the Pros.

Removing missiles is not a good idea, cause missiles are the only weapons balanced right in FL. The torps should be balanced new, the are LAME!

And...please don´t flame and Spam in this Thread.
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Verfasst am: 24.12.09 18:57
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seth is not useless... i am better with seth in pvp but it's not easy to play...

+ components
+ weaponpositions
+ 360° Turret

- thruster drain

with enought practice its more effective than eagle...

sry 4 bad engl.
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<X000> hat folgendes geschrieben:
seth is not useless... i am better with seth in pvp but it's not easy to play...

+ components
+ weaponpositions
+ 360° Turret

- thruster drain

with enought practice its more effective than eagle...

sry 4 bad engl.


I can prove you wrong anytime and anywhere =D
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but than you have to fight against me with both ships... to see the difference
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Franz_Fredinand hat folgendes geschrieben:
Maybe the Seth should be modded completely new, but many people do not want a ship competing with Eagle, especially the Pros.


What the hell are you talking about? That's totally made out of thin air.
Seth has an uber advantage against eagle when you use rockets, most of
the time they're going apeshit and ignore every coutermeasure. There is also a
way to do that with the eagle, but on the Seth every beginner can
accomplish that without big problems.

But I agree in one case: It's senseless to have a higher drain.
If people want to lag they just buy a Sabre and do that 4-strafe-thingy.
Well. The changes that were made in the last update are ok. I don't run out
of Thruster-Energy that often anymore and the ship's actually not bad.
But as I said: Higher drain? Senseless shit.


Franz_Fredinand hat folgendes geschrieben:
Removing missiles is not a good idea, cause missiles are the only weapons balanced right in FL. The torps should be balanced new, the are LAME!


Have you ever actually used them? Probably not, you just got destroyed by them
thinking "WTF HELL IM DEAD IN LIKE ONE TORP AND I CANT DODGE THEM,
TOTALLY NOT BALANCED"
Either you are too bad, or your opponent was too good.
It needs a lot of time to master torps, but when you finally did it it's worth it.
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Verfasst am: 25.12.09 00:18
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Seth could be a very good ship but it got that strafepower usage and it makes it bad

but seth is better than an eagle its surely so
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Valy hat folgendes geschrieben:
Seth could be a very good ship but it got that strafepower usage and it makes it bad

but seth is better than an eagle its surely so


just train to fly with it... i dont think they'll remove it
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you right x000 they did the seth so they won't repair it ................ never an suggestion will do anything in any game the admins to just what they want
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That's totally wrong, Valy. The power-drain is now lower than before, because the Admins did what the community wished. Otherwise it would be still much higher.
And the power-drain was included to the mod because a lot of people complained about the huge lag the Seth has. It was not an Admin-Only-Decision.

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2 - <~A~>Bräse_Trilämza

its a seth btw

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Zitat:

The power-drain is now lower than before

Yes, 7% lower....great....
Zitat:

And the power-drain was included to the mod because a lot of people complained about the huge lag the Seth has

I think, the problem was not the strafe, but it was not modded carefully, cause i was flying sabre a long time and heard never players shouting YOU LAG!
Zitat:
Seth has an uber advantage against eagle when you use rockets

Why the hell? Missiles don´t care about the ship they are mounted on. And when the Seth causes Lag without strafing, why are the modders not fixing this problem?
Zitat:
Have you ever actually used them?

Yes.
Zitat:
It needs a lot of time to master torps, but when you finally did it it's worth it.

The problem is, many players are not able to master the and use them in some kind of sucidal way: the other ones shield is down, but i have 50 sp left so i make harakiri, my shield will be blasted in pieces but the other one will die...
And some thing i find generally strange about torpedoes: why can they be used against fighters? in my opinion, a torpedoe should be only used for killing bases battleships dreadnoughs cruisers trains and so on, but not against fighters. the only thing i´m glad of is that wasps are killing torps quite reliable...
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Then don't allow people to kamikaze you? The only way to gain some skill is to die thousands of times and learn .

And as for the power drain, more and more people are using the seth now, so I think it worked, a compromise has been found.

Stop trying to change everything to YOUR preferences there are hundreds of people playing on this server, the admin team is trying to find a balance so at all players can enjoy playing on this server.

It would be cool if the lag problem could be fixed but maybe it's just impossible to mod it out?

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Bart, you´re right, but a problem is the high damage range of the torps.

Yes, it worked, but i think it would be better to find a solution without a drain to allow the seth pilots to srafe without running out of thruster energy.
Zitat:
Stop trying to change everything to YOUR preferences

It wouldn´t be for my preferences, i´m flying eagle at the moment....
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It would be cool if the lag problem could be fixed but maybe it's just impossible to mod it out?

Nothing is impossible..Toyota.
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Franz_Fredinand hat folgendes geschrieben:
The problem is, many players are not able to master the and use them in some kind of sucidal way: the other ones shield is down, but i have 50 sp left so i make harakiri, my shield will be blasted in pieces but the other one will die...


They probably don't even do that on purpose. Even if they do, it's your job
to dodge the torpedo not the admins job to make them weaker.


@ Seth: Ill record a vid about raks on a seth soon, just for comparison.
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Franz_Fredinand hat folgendes geschrieben:
Bart, you´re right, but a problem is the high damage range of the torps.

Yes, it worked, but i think it would be better to find a solution without a drain to allow the seth pilots to srafe without running out of thruster energy.
Zitat:
Stop trying to change everything to YOUR preferences

It wouldn´t be for my preferences, i´m flying eagle at the moment....
Zitat:
It would be cool if the lag problem could be fixed but maybe it's just impossible to mod it out?

Nothing is impossible..Toyota.



K YOU'RE PISSING ME OFF.

High range of torps?WHAT THE **** ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT.THEY DON'T EVEN LOCK DUDE.I used torps for like 2 years.They just fly straight since when you launch them , the only tricky thing is to know when to launch them , because there's a position when 9/10 people aren't able to dodge.I am able to dodge , ask torpers who fight me.

I know there are some torps that can get some slight curves but that's cause of the lag.

And high damage?IT'S A TORPEDO , A TORPEDO , OFC IT HAS HIGH DAMAGE GOD.

OUR PREFERENCE?I'M SORRY BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY POWER OVER ADMINS.

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Torpedoes are hard to shoot. You have to give it the correct direction and a good speed so that it can hit the opponent. I trained it for almost 3 years and some people think that my torps are good, but I still guess my torps are bad. It is very hard to fight with them.

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