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Beitrag Titel: Is the seth supposed to ahve 115x the strafe power usage?
Verfasst am: 02.03.09 05:35
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The seth is an Anubis clone, eagle alternative, that can be found out beyone the Unknowns.

I bought one, and it is a very nice ship to have. At first, i thought the tradeoff for having not an eagle, was just the lower armor, and slightly reduced turning rate.

However.... I have another problem with this ship.

It uses up thruster power when strafing, and alot of it. It doesnt strafe any faster then any other ship, but it uses up so much that if you strafe while using the thruster, you only have about 30 seconds worth, if that.

Now, all the other ships in the game have strafe usages of 2. This includes all the super big transports that where added. The Seth has a usage of 230.

Summary: is this intentional? or something that is getting fixed in the next mod?
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Its made this way to balance Seth. This ship can evade almost anything at constant strafing and at one point there was too many pilots without any skill using it to gain upper hand in battle. Energy usage at strafe was made to fix this and now there's only few ppl around who can fight with it - army of noobstrafers is gone.

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How does strafing with the seth make it harder to hit?
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Beitrag Titel: Re: Is the seth supposed to ahve 115x the strafe power usage
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Nyar hat folgendes geschrieben:
It doesnt strafe any faster then any other ship

Thats not true. It has a lower mass and thats why it accelerates faster.
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Lower mass, faster strafing. Tricky signature that makes it harder to hit with rocket/torpedo. Also Seth is harder to hit with guns by default due to smaller signature, especially from the front. Add vertical strafing that is available @HC, turret that able to shoot in front of the ship, and you have almost ideal non-vanilla ship.

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bla bla

thx to that strafes drain this ship is unflyable.
You destroyed any alternative for an Eagle.

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Oh rly? Its flyable for those who are able to pvp without insane strafing in all directions. Take Balla for example, he's quite good with it.

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Flex , would it be possible to change your Avatar . I know it´s off topic , but I´ve realised that there are symbols of many years repression against some nations in Europe . That are symbols of a revolution which is responsible for several Millions Murdered people . For me and probably for some folks here , it´s the same like any Signs related to the german bad part of history . Pls. remove it .

On Topic : Seth is good for huntin Nomads .

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my point is that Seth is now very bad ballanced, i havent seen in any mod ship which strafes drain energy, and Balla propably uses this ship cuz he likes it

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i agree tihs topic, the Seth need to much strafe energy.
I understand the need of this balancing, but whats about 1/2 or 1/3 energy usage?

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Verfasst am: 02.03.09 14:43
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I used to fly around 20 seths - now I am forced to "change" to eagle in order to be competitive in PVP

I fully understand the original intentions of the admins but in this case - as it is now - they could also remove this ship...

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PS: is there any possibility to check how many chars used the seth before the current changes and how many are still used - I think the difference will be remarkable...

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i agree, balancing of seth is bad atm
even if i hate this ship cuz its immune against missiles.

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Flex , would it be possible to change your Avatar . I know it´s off topic , but I´ve realised that there are symbols of many years repression against some nations in Europe . That are symbols of a revolution which is responsible for several Millions Murdered people . For me and probably for some folks here , it´s the same like any Signs related to the german bad part of history . Pls. remove it .


oO!

smells like the beginning of a political discussion. ☭

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well i dont care about that symbols much cuz it represents low IQ level of ppl who uses it,
but in Poland USSR logo = **** swastika...

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Flex , would it be possible to change your Avatar . I know it´s off topic , but I´ve realised that there are symbols of many years repression against some nations in Europe . That are symbols of a revolution which is responsible for several Millions Murdered people . For me and probably for some folks here , it´s the same like any Signs related to the german bad part of history . Pls. remove it .

I will do so if asked by admins, but not in any other case. We can juggle with links and talk many hours about "several Millions Murdered", how and by who story is written and how it can be one way for one nation and completely different for another in political interests. I have no interest in "your truth" and have no interest in posting "my truth".
I like my current avatar and I see no reason to remove it. If you find it insulting - well duh!.. welcome to the internet. I can find your avatar/signature or any other just as insulting (poison killed alot of ppl too), but I am not asking anyone to remove them.

Btw, adding to Komar's post. Its kinda sad that a good, bright symbol only have one meaning now, leaving other meanings forgotten.

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Swastika's original meaning has been changed and german community banned
this symbol after WW2. When you are using USSR symbol you are also proud
that your beloved Stallin murdered millions of ppl in eastern Europe.
This prooves that russians like you didnt grow enough and
i hope u will stay far away from democratic Europe

sry for ofttop im over & out from here

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Flex , would it be possible to change your Avatar . I know it´s off topic , but I´ve realised that there are symbols of many years repression against some nations in Europe . That are symbols of a revolution which is responsible for several Millions Murdered people . For me and probably for some folks here , it´s the same like any Signs related to the german bad part of history . Pls. remove it .

I will do so if asked by admins, but not in any other case. We can juggle with links and talk many hours about "several Millions Murdered", how and by who story is written and how it can be one way for one nation and completely different for another in political interests. I have no interest in "your truth" and have no interest in posting "my truth".
I like my current avatar and I see no reason to remove it. If you find it insulting - well duh!.. welcome to the internet. I can find your avatar/signature or any other just as insulting (poison killed alot of ppl too), but I am not asking anyone to remove them.

Btw, adding to Komar's post. Its kinda sad that a good, bright symbol only have one meaning now, leaving other meanings forgotten.


1. http://www.poison.org/actFast/1800.asp it´s real , and related to our HC situation should be a joke cause we have here a known person spamming all the time : KEKSE .....................

2. "Your truth" , "My truth" Wake Up Flex , there is only one truth and it says that this VBS ( very bad system ) murdered between 8 November 1917 and 26 December 1991 several millons of innocent people in my , yours and other countries in western Europe . They killed or let them die from starvation for years . You wanna tell me something about " YOUR TRUTH " , please do so .

3. I was only asking you friendly to change this , I don´t want to push here a ban or something . I know that admins here would go crazy if somebody would be so stupid to take a N4zi symbol for his avatar and I know why . Please try to understand that our hearts are filled with pain while watching this .
Some bad things can be forgiven but not forgotten . We try to forgive but we won´t forgot .

Have a nice day

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I have no interest in "your truth" and have no interest in posting "my truth".

Any other questions in pm, please.
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Topic:
the Seth is still a good ship and an alternative to the Eagle. I guess she's still easier to fly than the Sabre, providing as much energy as the Titan, which makes the firepower of the Seth superior to the Sabre. The most significant - unfair - advantage compared to the "pre-energy-loss-time" of the Seth was limited by penalty. I occasionally fly this ship and I really enjoy it - also without strafe advantage.

To the off-topic:
Komar's avatar reminds me of the T0tenk0pf SS and Mephisto is the name of a devil. Because of this both should change this attributes or should be banned...
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Dear Lady , pls. read my last post carefully 1st.

Mephisto is one of most important characters in J.W.v. Gothe´s Faust drama and I have choosen his name cause i love this book . You read it ?

@ F7 : there are no stupid questions only stupid answers .
No arguments from you , no comments from me . Now you are Happy .

Ps. Seth is one of the ships that is looking better than an Eagle .

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right...

It's a petty that there isnt a diversity on this server. That makes it kind of monotone.

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seth sucks [dot]

offtopic:
mephisto is a non-existing creature... well i think so...
an avatar reminding you of something? different people, different associations.
flex avatar represents a dictatorship. this is not comparable to mephisto or a skull.

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to compare hammer and sickle with crooked cross or the like is just stupid.

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well they remove seth because lot ppl from oeg and oia was crying about seth "its impossible to hit PLagge in seth" how poor . Well i liked that ship cus he was another alternative to fly and kick ass :]

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Ps. Seth is one of the ships that is looking better than an Eagle
indeed "with bretonia adv fighter engine +blue lamps=kawaii" Laughing

And now about off topic;im just tired off your bla bla bla bla stfu bla bla bla swastika bla bla bla and other stupid blabling from everyine omg ban them all O.o

And plexiglass katyn....we will remember that :]
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Dear Lady , pls. read my last post carefully 1st.

Mephisto is one of most important characters in J.W.v. Gothe´s Faust drama and I have choosen his name cause i love this book . You read it ?

@ F7 : there are no stupid questions only stupid answers .
No arguments from you , no comments from me . Now you are Happy .
...


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In the History of eastern Europe we had several times that Russia & Germany came together and had the same point of view .
It happens until now ( even in a small Comm. like the HC ) , for example the new Baltic Pipeline which was signed under Mr.Schröder ( who was one or two weeks after signing this contract retired and found his new job in the russian company who benefits from his signature ) .
2nd world war was the same story incl. Holocaust .
44 Years under Sowjet occupation was the same story .
First , Second & 3rd Partition of Poland was the same story .

Everytime this happens , one country is always pretty f******

and Flex is tellin me : ""I have no interest in "your truth" and have no interest in posting "my truth". ""

Are u blind ?

That is your KINDERGARDEN , I´m out .

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