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Beitrag Titel: Restore SETH VHF !!!
Verfasst am: 18.05.08 16:47
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I would like to ask admins for reconsider changes which you made with
10 class fither "Seth". Now it losees thruster energy during strafing,
this change makes this ship completely useless, even for missions against
NPC. Sabre is more "lagging ship" (example - war in alpha, attakers switch
chars to sabres and attack enemy base, and their ping is growing O.o,
when they wanna fight normal pvp switch to eagles and ping return to be
normal), and you havent introduced any changes with this ship.
Seth was mostly used by ppl to make missions, and by ppl who prefer
"gun fight style", now we can only watch it how nice it looks Razz

I'd like ask to restore this ship like it was in 3.05 HC mod version,
or reconsider any other changes if its really needed.

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kann das jemand bei kummerkasten in den schiff-balancing feddbackthraed verschieben bitte
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sabre = vanillia ship

seth = n00b ship

change is perfect, love it

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if its noob ship than why is it in mod anyway? try fly it than you will
see how "perfect" this change is...
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/cry


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If you cant fly this ship that doesnt mean admins should make it useless,
maybe other ppl who used to fly it should say sthg here^^
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Beitrag Titel: Re: Restore SETH VHF !!!
Verfasst am: 18.05.08 17:08
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Rapier.pl hat folgendes geschrieben:

NPC. Sabre is more "lagging ship" (example - war in alpha, attakers switch
chars to sabres and attack enemy base, and their ping is growing O.o,
when they wanna fight normal pvp switch to eagles and ping return to be
normal),


The ping didn´t change with the type of ship you are using.

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yes but when you limit your upload than ping will change, im not stupid^^
i just said an example that sabre is worse than seth, thats my point
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take a look at PvP Eagle - Seth

Seth laggs like hell, non figth able. Then you fight against the same player with eagle and you have a good like. So stop talking crap and be real. especially like you from a region where internet isn't that fast used seth. Its obviously why.

Its more difficult to hit sabre, but he cant move like an eagle or seth, so it should be halfway fair. But trying to kil a seth was more then a joke!!

And if you want to kill NPC with Seth, dont use strave and it will work.

Its all about skill and not the ship you are flying.

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try do mission in omicron beta without strafing
i have no problem with my skill, and seth has more firepower cuz of its turret
it was very good altenrate vessel for an eagle
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lol u know that ur ping always is around 80 and fluct 6 ... of course u want seth back in normal mode to make ur opponents go crazy about ur jumpstyle called pvp skill ....rofl
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Rapier.pl hat folgendes geschrieben:
try do mission in omicron beta without strafing
i have no problem with my skill, and seth has more firepower cuz of its turret
it was very good altenrate vessel for an eagle


Use the Sabre for Missions and the Eagle for Fights.....than you dont need Seth at all Very Happy

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lagger in an eagle is the same dangerous as int the seth,
than why lag must be point of this duscussion?

@Marshall D. Teach: Sabre turn rate is pathetic, thats why no one uses it to pvp, and dont use it at all


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[-::TA::-]Just hat folgendes geschrieben:
/cry


useless thread --> close


Your post was way more useless than this thread.

This is a suggestion, if you dont like it, then say it but leave it at that and dont come up with unnecessary childish flame.

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Rapier.pl hat folgendes geschrieben:
lagger in an eagle is the same dangerous as int the seth,
than why lag must be point of this duscussion?

@Marshall D. Teach: Sabre turn rate is pathetic, thats why no one uses it to pvp, and dont use it at all


read once again what i have written.....I said use the Sabre for MISSIONS....plz read frist and post after that and not the other way round Wink

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Seth "lagging" problem is that this ship accelerate and brakes faster than
eagle (propably cuz of very small mass), maybe mod team could change it
to be more similar like an eagle but leave seth turn rate which is worse
than in eagle. It could be well ballanced: Seth has turret shooting in front
(more firepower), Eagle has better turn rate. Even if it could be possible to
change sabres acceleration/brake and turn rate parameters, it would stop
sabres forward/backward fight style. Anyway this mod is now hard to call
optional.

@Marshall: i mean that many players here have only 1 ID and sometimes not
even full (5 chars). i'd like use 1 char to make mission and to fight,
if someone will come to disrupt you mission u are not able to fight him
because he will be alway behind you cuz eagle has much better turn rate,
and u can only log off Razz (multi ID owners like FTI-Cactus are only few
individuals )
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btw, a lots of ppl have several IDs

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Rapier.pl hat folgendes geschrieben:
Seth "lagging" problem is that this ship accelerate and brakes faster than
eagle (propably cuz of very small mass), maybe mod team could change it
to be more similar like an eagle but leave seth turn rate which is worse
than in eagle. It could be well ballanced: Seth has turret shooting in front
(more firepower), Eagle has better turn rate. Even if it could be possible to
change sabres acceleration/brake and turn rate parameters, it would stop
sabres forward/backward fight style. Anyway this mod is now hard to call
optional.

@Marshall: i mean that many players here have only 1 ID and sometimes not
even full (5 chars). i'd like use 1 char to make mission and to fight,
if someone will come to disrupt you mission u are not able to fight him
because he will be alway behind you cuz eagle has much better turn rate,
and u can only log off Razz (multi ID owners like FTI-Cactus are only few
individuals
)


Wrong! Many ppl have more than 2 ID (i have 5 full of chars)
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ok maybe im mistaken, but its not about "who and how many id's has"
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Seth was just to strong before the modupdate came. That's a fact.

I think, the new changes were quite good. Now he's not that lame anymore. If these changes would be removed, some other's would be needed..
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So stop talking crap and be real. especially like you from a region where internet isn't that fast used seth. Its obviously why


wtf are you talking about dude?

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@ Harvox, now all ppl who used seth buy eagle, and server will be like any other - eagles everywhere Razz
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The problems that occur using a Seth are similar to the ones occuring with a Sabre, but the Seth has two advantages in comparison with Sabre:

- The surface area of a Seth facing towards the enemy is much lower than that of the Sabre
- The Seth is turning quicker than the Sabre

The Vanilla Ships Class 10 that got the fast acceleration (Sabre and Titan) are much better balanced, because of the surface and the turning-rate.

By the way: On my Desktop there are 6 IDs Mr. Green

/edit: another point is the ability of the Seth to survive nearly all missiles without problems, due to the lower number of hull components.

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ever eated a cannonball with a seth?
i havent got problems with seth.
you can hold more rockets - you´re not turning as fast as eagle and have not as much hull

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14 IDs ^^

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