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Euphoria







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Beitrag Titel: A public Note
Verfasst am: 10.05.08 14:09
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This is a public note for all who are interested.IMMORTAL's Server Command tought that would be better if i made this statement.

I was flying as IMMORTAL-MaL'Ach in the last past days when [OEG]Gudrun recognized me ... After ~ 1 h i confessed all , had some discussion with both sides , IMMORTALs and TCEs.I first tought that i was gonna be kicked from both TCE and Immy's , but lucky for me i was kicked only from TCE's , and Immys , alto they lost a bit of the confidence they had before , they accepted me to stay as member.

IMMORTALs had nothing to do with this , not even they knew who i really am.

With all this said , i'm going to take a break from FL for a few weeks and come back then with IMMORTAL tag.

I would also ask admins for 2 things:
-Because some of the ppl from HHC hate me now , i think is better if you close this topic , because i don't want it to become another flame ground.
-Second , i hope that you can change my forum name to MaL'Ach.

See ya later and have fun ingame


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BT, SLF, TCE, IMMORTAL what is your next clan? DOS? Hamster
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u really think u can take a break for few weeks? i dont think so
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Verfasst am: 10.05.08 14:45
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K2 hat folgendes geschrieben:
BT, SLF, TCE, IMMORTAL what is your next clan? DOS? Hamster


u forgot wolfs Rolling Eyes

Bandit you will never learn.

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Verfasst am: 10.05.08 15:14
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Bandit try not to burn all your bridges Wink
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Verfasst am: 10.05.08 17:03
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you wont get into OIA

but maybe you should choose your final clan

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Verfasst am: 10.05.08 17:40
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I wonder where you are still smurfing around, maybe you were in all clans already Mr. Green

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Verfasst am: 12.05.08 02:23
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Bandit bandit... I won't ask you what clans you were already in, I will just ask which clan you didn't join yet, will be much faster. I wouldn't care if you leave TCE for other clan (even OEG), but IMMORTALS are what I hate the most. Hope you leave them soon >.<.

Btw. Multiclanning isn't a good way to have fun >.<.

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Luv ya 2 Dracco Razz

@ Kanzler .. Who knows :/ Maybe it will be FoF Very Happy

@ 16 .. I will learn ... eventualy ^^
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Verfasst am: 12.05.08 09:01
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Hehe, don't mess with Gudrun, she is an excellent Field Spook

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Verfasst am: 12.05.08 22:49
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you should think more, no one likes dezerters, i hope you will find your place eventually^^

Btw my friend, your new camrates have similar reputation to OIA and uSF

good luck and watch your back Rolling Eyes

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good to know oO
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Oh I just saw this thread... Bandit, better change your forum account to Bandit, to not change it every time when you change clan=) Everyone call you Bandit anyway.
I think you will keep smurfing around, but if I `ll recognise you, I `ll not tell anyone (I didnt tell about Immortal too)
Btw I believe he is not only on server who is multiclanning=)
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Gudrun hat folgendes geschrieben:

Btw I believe he is not only on server who is multiclanning=)


so i think it too Confused
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There are more then one multiclanner on this server, but that doesn't change the fact that it is not a good thing. Exception is being a spy but that's different -,-.

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Dracco hat folgendes geschrieben:
Exception is being a spy but that's different -,-.


Still lame !

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D@rk hat folgendes geschrieben:
Dracco hat folgendes geschrieben:
Exception is being a spy but that's different -,-.


Still lame !


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Lame but different from multiclanning.

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Lame but different from multiclanning.


Indeed, in my oppinion its worse than multiclanning
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Squig hat folgendes geschrieben:
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Lame but different from multiclanning.


Indeed, in my oppinion its worse than multiclanning


of course it's worse, since spying is such a useless tool that humans have used with absolutely no profit for the past thousands of years...

if you're arguing about the morality of spying, then you're a bit off your league here, and are taking on something too great to be discussed in a forum. Furthermore, you're starting from the premisys that humans are noble creatures, rather than just more intelligent than the other animals, and not much more.

if you're arguing about the benefits of spying, then you're arguing against a few millenia of history

and if what you mean to say is that this is a game that everyone wants to enjoy... correct, but it's not a player's duty to make sure that all others enjoy themselves, every player's duty is to enjoy themselves, if they can't do that, they shouldn't expect it from anyone else anyway...
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Verfasst am: 15.05.08 17:37
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HerrGott, I'm indeed referring to the spies in this game. It's utterly lame in my oppinion. Why? Because clans - at least my clan - are based on trust and friendship. Once some moronic spy comes along he's abusing the trust he's receiving and that's something that goes beyond simple games to me. I've said it before, we're not limited to Freelancer but we're rather friends who share their issues. Your post is showing great selfishness. Sure it's just a game and people need to enjoy themselves, but not at the cost of others. Wink
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Squig hat folgendes geschrieben:
HerrGott, I'm indeed referring to the spies in this game. It's utterly lame in my oppinion. Why? Because clans - at least my clan - are based on trust and friendship. Once some moronic spy comes along he's abusing the trust he's receiving and that's something that goes beyond simple games to me. I've said it before, we're not limited to Freelancer but we're rather friends who share their issues. Your post is showing great selfishness. Sure it's just a game and people need to enjoy themselves, but not at the cost of others. Wink


I have studied psychology (not in university though, just personal lecture), and I know that humans are selfish, so if my post sounded that way, it only sounded humanly. Also, because of what I've studied, I can guarantee that for most normal people, being nice is nothing more than the result of applying moral rules. You may feel good about being nice, but subconsciously, you are only nice because most people seem to try to be that way.

Spies are ineed know to abuse trust, how else would they be able to spy otherwise? Moronic however?! Not really, usually spies are some of the smartes people on Earth, at least real life spies.

As for enjoying at the cost of others? Humans, at least normal, sane humans, only avoid having fun at the cost of themselves, if they realize that something they'd like to do harms them. (Exceptions such as smoking apply here as well, but then again, it's not your body anymore if you're smoking, full control is gone. ) Doing things at the cost of others? The only reason to avoid such things is again the set of moral laws, which, fortunately, are a lot weaker than our own behavioural nature.

The only way in which spying in this game is lame, is if you're spying against those you feel good around, those you want to hang around with, those you call friends.

Anyway, please excuse me if this is the last post I do on this subject. I've had endless discussions on human nature and what behaviours are normal in the forum of a mmorpg. Spying is one of the things those guys were arguing against, and I was almost the only one not against it.

The reason is quite simple, I judge humans as simple animals with a great intelligence, while most people prefer to consider humans as noble. Most people prefer to trust the power of the moral laws, and refuse to accept that those rules mean nothing if they ever have to face instincts, and basic behaviour instruments.
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Somebody had spy in WOLFS clan :/.

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At your area of study I'm sure they discussed this matter, but this is about a game. What's the benefit of spying other than gaining some information at the cost of trust-abuse? You may like to uphold human nature, but I'm glad we were able to put that aside instead of killing each other with rocks and sticks over i.e. deer.

Moral laws may be weaker for some people, but that doesn't justify their behaviour in a world where people uphold moral values. Indeed those moral laws won't reach to the point where the situation is endangering a person, but again, this is a game, not real life.

You're only proving people who are spying lost all sense of the difference between a game threat and a real-life threat. Furthermore it's only logical to feel angered when someone you trust has been misleading you. I know it's logical by human nature, but is it therefore also justified?

Nevertheless I can't convince you and you probably won't be able to convince me; Modus vivendi.
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I 100%ly second squig's opinion.

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